As the world of Internet Marketing gets larger I’m finding that there are clusters of internet marketers appearing around the world. In Bangkok for one place every time you talk to someone in a bar there’s a 1 in 5 chance that they’re in on the game.
There are obvious benefits to this.
I came across this post from Finch about where good places are to live, but unfortunately it’s not backed up by any real experience for most of the places on the list:
What countries and cities have you had a good experience with?
The ideal places has:
– Internet connection works
– Reasonable cost of living
– Postage / mail system works (i.e u get your mail)
– Is a internet marketer cluster
– Relax time benefits (beach, sun etc.)
– Security/ safety (don’t want to lose our laptop do we)
I’m making a move next month to one of the following: Mexico, Panama, Costa Rica or Guatamala – will post back where I end up going.
My previous experiences have been:
– Bangkok 8/10 – everything is great except the pollution and would be better if there was a beach nearby
– Shanghai, China 2/10 – simple fact, the internet does not work (VPN helps a bit, but not enough to stop you tearing your hair out)
– Hong Kong – 6.5/10 – pricy + high pollution + no many internet marketers
– New York – 7/10 – pricy + cold in winter + good internet marketer hub
Wow, curious to see how South America can match your expectations, and in which way.
Don’t hesitate to share your feelings here, I’m very interested about your thread
yeah im in California, probably the worst possible place to be for Affiliate Marketers. High Rent, High Taxes, but hey it’s nice to be by the beach…Oh wait, Bangkok is by the beach too. Im screwed.
San Diego is more or less the IM capital of the world (especially the info marketing space)… Lots of big dogs live there. It’s beautiful everywhere and has above average food/nightlife.
If I weren’t being pulled to SF I would still base my life out of SD.
I will never leave San Diego
Bangkok isnt really by the beach
Norway – 4/10; Very pricey, cold, not a good internet marketer hub. Pros are great internet & safe
I’m personally a huge fan of Azerbaijan. Stable country, safe, no corporate taxes, good girls and great weather.
You left out the food andthe famous Azerbaijan wine. Dee to the lish.
No joke, my fiancee is from Armenia which is west of Azerbaijan. I can confirm the women and food are top notch LOL.
Why do they have to be mutually exclusive?
Bangkok stole away with my heart, soul, arms, legs and… other bits. I’d be back there in a heartbeat.
For what it’s worth, Buenos Aires would be next on my list. I know a few guys doing Internet related stuff over there and they love it. Only problem is you have to pick up some Spanish.
Yeah you can totally get away with no Thai in Bangkok. They have an amazing infrastructure even for mobile (Their HSPA+ network was regularly getting me 28-30 MBitps in and out of the city all over Thailand), delicious street food for 2-3 USD, Michelin-level restaurants for 35 USD for multi-course meals, and more sexual variety than you can shake a stick at. Can get a sick loft by one of the BTS stops for convenience for the same price as sharing a tiny room with someone in most first world countries.
I don’t know if there are any places that can beat Bangkok.
New Zealand ain’t bad, but it certainly doesn’t have an affiliate cluster, it’s not that cheap either.
How long can a tourist stay in Thailand?
and some of the worst taxes in the world and soon to be bankrupt state….not sure why anyone would want to pay 13% state taxes….yes its nice in Cali…..but that state overall has some serious issues
I am older than most of you so my opinions on the places I like don’t have to much to do with the whole party themed lifestyle many of you seem to hold near and dear…..
but I fond of both Malaysia and Singapore….
if you want fancy smanchy Singapore has some of the biggest, best high roller shit you can get…..and its safe…and its tax friendly and it has screaming good internet as its the major hub for all of SE asia…(amazon even has huge data center there)….
If you want a little more affordable….but again you could go high rent here as well, Malaysia is quite nice…..I would dare say they have the best food on the planet….its cheap…..fairly safe (no worse than any USA city)….and very very very favorable taxes for those who do off shore…they also have dirt cheap high speed internet…..I have a 100mbps fiber for like 100$~ a month in my condo….. Malaysia is at the crossroads of alot of some of the biggest undersea internet backbones….
and one of the easiest things about both of these places is that english is widely spoken…..very easy to get around…..and also one thing to consider when moving a broad …. currency risk…..both of the above have very stable currencies in regards to the USD….
last thing I will mention on MY….unlike Thailand….or alot of the rest of asia….its fairly easy to get residency status here….even with legit a legit work permit….so if being in a country legally and having the right to work or setup shop legally is important to you …I would suggest do a little digging in the local immigration laws…..you might come to find some countries policys very….lame and a pain in the ass …..
Bangkok fucking rules. Great weather, cheap everything, hot girls. I don’t really network that much with affiliate marketers but there are loads.
Let me quote a recent New York Times article here:
"Bangkok has hit the sweet spot. It’s modern but far from antiseptic, filled with luxuries, pampering and great food — but still affordable. Somehow extremes coexist: skyscrapers and moldy tenements; high-end, cloth-napkin dining and tasty street food stalls; five-star hotels and fleabag guesthouses overflowing with backpackers; libidinous hedonism and Buddhist meditation. To travel across Bangkok is to see several worlds at once. But if there is one reason visitors return again and again to Bangkok, it is the people. Bangkok remains one of the friendliest cities on the planet, still infused with the Thai village traditions of hospitality and graciousness."
You can stay forever, just need to update your visa every few months and/or buy a one year visa from a language school.
Oh, and Bangkok IS by the beach. I can walk out of my place and take a taxi for 1500 bhats (50 bucks) and in 90 mins door-to-door I’ll be on a pristine beach outside Pattaya. (Yes Pattaya sucks but the beaches outside do not. )
I was here recently, this is 90 mins from my place in central Bangkok. This is a 5 star hotel where I had a seaview room with balcony for 100 bucks a night. One of the great things about Thailand is the unbeatable hotel rates
And I live here…2 subway stations from the center…I’m on the ground floor and can jump in that pool in 2.5 seconds from my living room. For this pad I pay the extortionate amount of 475 USD a month…
The one bad thing about Bangkok is…good luck working hard here 😛
Got serious FOMO right now.
Anyone not in BKK is missing out…I would show you a close-up of my fuckbuddy’s levitating ass but that would be pushing it…
Lorenzo didn’t you just break up with your girl? Perfect time for a change of continent…
Oh, and I would agree with weekendwarrior’s assessment of Shanghai: it sucks. Long miserable winter, bad internet, expensive, girls aren’t that hot, people aren’t that friendly, and guaranteed cancer from the most horrible air pollution in the world. Avoid. This is true for the whole of China except Hong Kong, which is a bit better.
Haha was actually thinking Europe…more my jam!
Ah yes…Dutch girls…
That is straight up unreal lol, you gonna be in bangers n mash in early May?
Sure thing Maynzie. You planning to come? Would be my pleasure to show you around.
Anyone else ever passing through, hit me up for a drink or three
Yah bro I think I’m gonna come for a few days after Amsterdam I’ve been to Bangkok before but never got to experience its nitty grittyness cos it was with an ex haha,
Would be rad to get a krew if we can and get a lil loose haha this has put Bangkok number 1 on my return was planning either Bangkok Kuala Lumpur or Beijing but seems Bangers has more then I experienced hahaha
Just tell me how gritty you want it, and Bangkok will deliver
Beijing, forget about it, one of the most polluted cities on earth, you can barely see the building in front of you:
I have no doubt that the inclusion of that girl in the pool was highly intentional.
Lol…I actually took that pic on a relaxed afternoon with my phone…wasn’t supposed to be for public consumption. Am I fucking her? You bet
If you are a US citizen not sure the tax havens help you at all unless you are going to give up your citizenship or try to scam the US government.
Connaissance, why do you choose Bangkok as opposed to living on one of the islands? The hot women are everywhere in the beach communities as well. Do you just prefer living in a big city?
Yes just personal preference. I love going to the islands, but it’s a very small scene. I like to live in a urban environment with decent clubs, concerts, brunches, art shows, malls, and millions of people. I also mostly date asian girls and if you want smart white collar ones, they are in Bangkok. If on the other hand you want to live on the beach and sleep with Swedish tourists or hotel receptionists, then the islands are best I’m toying with the idea of renting a flat on the beach near Bangkok to get the best of both worlds…
This thread makes me reminisce how insane SE Asia really is lol, I still can’t believe the colour and temperature of this water along with the rainbow fish you see schooling around lol
He said internet marketing community. I don’t think most of the places mentioned have much of a internet marketing community. Places I know do for sure
Out of those choices I’m going to have to vote San Diego all the way. Although the taxes suck. But everything else is quite nice. Real Estate is expensive but guess what that means when it increases in value which it almost always does other then the times you want to buy when it dips you’ll be gaining considerable equity. California also has fixed property taxes so when you buy a house the taxes will stay at that basis.
Not sure if there are other internet marketers here really, never met one. But Vietnam is pretty decent, fast internet, no blocks. Relatively cheap, but like Thailand the cost rack up if you reproduce your western lifestyle and eat western foods, live in a nice house etc.
But for like $2-$3k/month you live with a super high standard here.
Not as much party as in Thailand, more quiet place to chill and it’s super easy to live here even only on a tourist visa (Which I did for the past 4 years, just now got my permanent residency here so I don’t have to leave for 2 years and can then just extend it etc).
Just to provide some objectivity… Saying Pattay/Chonburri a is 90 minutes from Bangkok is like saying Philly/AC is 90 minutes from NYC. While true, no one really goes to those places except if you’re….. singularly minded. My boy goes there to train Muai Thai (some of the best instructors in central Thailand at least are there, otherwise u need to goto Chiang Mai), almost everyone goes there for sex tourism. The waters in Pattaya are polluted as fuck too. That said, hop on a flight on Bangkok Air and you’ll be in Phuket/Koh Phi Phi/Khao Lak etc in 1 hour for under 75 bucks, which are some of the nicest beaches you’ll see ever period.
Also the general cab from central BKK to Pattaya if you can even find one, is around ~3000-3200 Baht which is double the quoted price, but still cheap as fuck. Oh and if they know u can’t speak Thai, expect to pay dual pricing for everything.
All that said though, like Connaissance said though, you can hit up the Amari Orchid, the Dusett branches, and other 5 star resorts for WAY cheaper than anywhere else in the world. Walking Street in Pattaya if you’ve never been is an experience in an of itself too….
And @Maynzie re: post-Amsterdam… I’ve been to 20 different countries in the last 6 months… Thailand and esp BKK and the surrounding area are definitely one of the must-sees (even if you include Melbourne and Sydney and your tim tam’s too!). Definitely recommend it multitudes above Singapore or KL any of the other options u had up.
Like others say… I don’t know how they do it, but BKK balances the ultra-modern infrastructure of a modern city, with the cheapness off a third world country, with the amenities of a first-world country (for cheap I might add) when you want them, where monks will walk side by side with trannies. Quite possibly one of the most balanced cities I’ve ever been to in terms of every aspect both cultural and infrastructure-wise.
@timtetra : I assure you what I said is accurate 🙂 I know everyone says Pattaya sucks, and it does, but if you think outside the box and go outside the city there are no hookers and the beach is clean (it surprised me as well the first time). I go to the Pullman hotel on Long Beach with my regular girl for romantic weekends. Give it a try. It’s exactly like Phuket but 5 hours closer to home. And taxis are 1500 – done it enough time to know, I even got away with 1200 once
@smaxor: I agree, I don’t think BKK (or anywhere in asia) can compete with US cities in size of internet community. But BKK does have a lot of marketers. And the OP asked for reasonable cost of living, which Asia has in spades. You can live like a king here with 50K a year, and save an extra 100k a year (or whatever) compared to what you would spend in the US for the same lifestyle. This can shave years off your journey to financial independence.
With all the love for Bangkok, maybe we should pool the STM resources together, buy a condo complex, and turn it in to a gigantic affiliate workshop/HQ. Complete with pool, unlimited bar, and scantily clad SE Asian wenches…
Just a thought! Mhm.
I’ve got to get out to Thailand one of these days. I’ve almost never heard anything but love for the place from anyone who’s been there.
@timtetra – any recommendations for (intermediate-level) Muai Thai instructors? May be moot because I might not get out there for a couple of years, but still, always useful to know…
Haha fuuuuuuck I can never go there. That would just be too much.
I second Bangkok! Bang kok Bang kok Bang me
You would want to re-consider Malaysia again because it’s really unsafe. Just too many snatch thieves here. And is definitely not an internet marketer community as compared to Singapore.
@Connaissance I’ll take your word on the rates, i was just detailing my experience as a visitor there, obviously when you live there and know your way around you can do it cheaper etc. I actually thought Pattaya was pretty fun overall to visit, I mainly stuck within the Songthaew routes though.
@Caurmen I’ll ask my friend for you and PM you, he’s been training there for 7 years.
This honestly doesn’t have to be a pipe dream.
Sort of like a real-life version of the Affiliate Island you blogged about a while back?
It would be immense!
Even just arranging one month per year where everybody shacks up in the same complex, explores the city together, eats out together, shares work insights etc etc.
It would be like an Internet nerd’s version of Jersey Shore, except… dirtier.
"Even just arranging one month per year where everybody shacks up in the same complex, explores the city together, eats out together, shares work insights etc etc."
As long as everyone is at a similar level it would be hugely beneficial for everyone involved.
Besmir, Stackman and I do this on a more small scale version. Haven’t done Asia yet, but after next month would of done Europe twice and US once.
I would definitely be interested in a BKK month with a STM complex.
This idea gets 2 fistpumps.
All the love for bangkok… can’t resist.
But what about latin america…? someone please say something about this place before I reconsider after all these years
With respect to Toronto,
Weather generally sucks, except for a 4 month window during the summer time.
Also, everything here is generally quite expensive, like most north american cities, but it’s probably one of the safest, most secure places on the planet.
Because our real-estate market didn’t crash during the recession, property here is over-priced, despite having the highest number of building permits in the world currently.
Girls are average in most cases, and going out at night can be expensive (drinks, cabs, hotels, can easily total $50-190+/person minimum).
Oh, and Toronto has a couple great affiliate-marketing companies stationed here. Mundomedia being one of them. Neverblue, and one of the F5/STM guys.
Toronto has a lot of internet marketing, affiliate marketing, entrepreneurship meetups, networking meetups tho. A very strong community to network with in that sense.
But otherwise, not your amazing paradise + ‘make money online’ spot.
I give a shout out for Puerto Rico ( mainly cause I live there)
Just moved to San diego after living 6 months in Costa rica.
It is nice to live there if you are aiming for the high season (nov till april).
I think it is the best place to learn how to surf as i just did.
Argentina, if you are living in buenos aires area than it wont have big difference than any other big city.
Argentina has the most beautiful women that you can find, sexy as hell (:
I had the best party in my life over there (opera bay) and the shitest experience ever, while going to a boca soccer game.
Dont go and sit in the 12 exit…crazy shit is going there…guns and shit
Peru is nice, but the people there are tiny and smelly (:
Peru has amazing waves but i think there is nothing to do there besides hiking and stuff like that.
Thailand, been there couple of months (10 years ago )and i had the best time of my life.
I liked more chang mai (and pai) and ko tao which was awesome place to do scuba diving long time ago.
Eventually it doesn’t really matter where you will be living, it is more important with who you are going to be.
It is not an easy task to move to a new place and meet "good" people while you are spending most of your time working alone.
Even just arranging one month per year where everybody shacks up in the same complex, explores the city together, eats out together, shares work insights etc etc.
My gash if froffing, that would be sick! It’s so refreshing to hang out with people in real life who share similar mindsets, like us affiliates, not just sports/drugs/girls (Not saying I don’t like, but how much can one take lol) talk all day long. I would love to do this, both trips to the USA have been a total blast. I’m all for it, doing it in Thailand would be so rad with all the different things you can do, city life to island paradise. Cheap piss, lots of sunshine, friendly people, exquisite underpriced property.
I think the pros outweigh the cons XD
I’m Thai and I think BKK is the best place for affiliate marketer.
Bkk is pretty decent,fast internet.We have a lot of internet providers here and it’s not too bad.
You can spend only $300 a month for rent Luxury condominium or if you want to buy luxury condominium it’s not expensive.
We have a lot of nice bar and club,Bangkok is one of the most color full lifestyles and it’s seemed to be our city never sleeps.
About food,we have a lot o nice restaurants,$30-$50 for great dinner and $5 or less for street food.Sea and island in Phuket,Krabi,Satun (white sand and blue water)
is easy to get to from the city by low cost airline,$120 or less for round-trip flights.So you can live in BKK and go to the beach on weekend easily
thailand would be natural fit tho.. super cheap.
but i know a TON of marketers in Austin, Colorado and San Diego.
Plus it gives those who haven’t been to Thailand (or anywhere else out of their comfort zone) the opportunity to go without the isolation of travelling alone. I know this stops a lot of affiliates from taking the plunge.
I’m sure you guys could have a field day promoting a couple of weeks in the tropicana STM Condoplex/Workshop as a contest giveaway!
I would be balls deep in any excuse to fly out there for a month.
A lot more discussion on here than I expected and some funky eastern Europe countries popped up. Thanks for the ideas.
If it wasn’t for the pollution and the fact that I’ve already spent so much of my life there Bangkok would probably be my number 1 place.
A return to Latin America is my next stop, and I’m exploring contacts in a number of the countries – will post back anything interesting that comes up from my search.
For Latin America, I know Santiago in Chile is the Startup City right now. Lots of Startups popping up there and lots of gov support. Not sure about IM though.
I’ve been to Buenos Aires and I really liked the city, beautiful girls ,not the tipical curvy Latina though. I think Colombia and my country, Venezuela take that crown
Venezuelan girls.. hmm… I agree totally.
Problem with Santiago is pollution also. But the Sovereign Wealth guys are big on it right now also.
If you include all internet based models (not just affiliate).. and count only guys. yep, think that’s fair.
If you want curvy gorgeous girls, Brazil my friend! I’ve been to 30+ countries and Brazil has some of the best bodies ive ever seen… Internet is SHIT though, unfortunatey…
Im here in Rio for 6 months and its a constant struggle to have decent internet and its more expensive to live than the US…
$1200USD to rent a studio apartment in Ipanema (neighborhood in Rio). I think im gonna try Bangkok or Kiev(Ukrain)/Berlin next 6 months i do outside the US…
This is the place we should all look into, IF YOU ARE FROM THE U.S., I gave a link to the reasons why in this thread.
But basically, as you know (or you should, though I feel many of you ‘Mericans don’t since you’d even recommend Cali for anything, lol):
— the U.S. gov sees you as their slave
— they think your money belongs to them first
— you can’t even renounce your citizenship now without paying an "exit tax" (still think you’re free?)
Anyways, PR apparently smartened up and decided to do the opposite of the current administration and make a deal with people who move to PR, start a biz, servicing people outside PR (aka internet bizs would qualify) — for some extremely sick tax breaks …
As Peter Schiff put it: "In order to make 20 million dollars in the US, you have to make $40 million. In Puerto Rico, theres a much lower bar: you can be half as successful in Puerto Rico and achieve the same result."
Considering it’s still a U.S. territory so you can speak English, pay in USD (cheaper than U.S. because their economy is so bad) but still decent infrastructure (from what I hear) — it’s definitely calling me …
I’m going to check it out this year, the places not in the tourist hot spots to see if it’s livable — strongly considering it for 2019 + ….
P.S. Polarbacon: are you American? I’d like to hear more about Malaysia too …
Singapore does not tax on income sourced outside the country. For everything else, there’s
Mastercard a 20% tax ceiling. Pretty good, and I might be heading there soonish.
But first, going to spend a year in Tokyo beginning mid-2019. We’ll see how that goes.
Has anyone considered Monaco? It’s well-known that you pay zero income tax there. A lot of pro athletes establish residence there to dodge taxes. You need to open a bank account there and maintain a minimum 100,000 euro balance, and you must buy a place of residence. Small apartments start at one million euro. It’s also easier for EU members since they don’t need a long-term French visa.
Now what’s with this forum’s obsession with Thailand? What am I missing? I don’t see the appeal at all. Is this a thing about Asian women or what?
yes I am American….
MY may not be as interesting from a single guy stand point as lets say Thailand, but MY has some awesome immigration policies that make living here and working(offshore) here very very attractive….add to that its very easy to get around because English is widely spoken…
M2H (Malaysia Second Home) is a simple program to get accepted into and it has some really nice benefits (no tax on the first car you buy, treated like a MY resident, 10yr visa and renewable)
its about as close as you can get to a second citizenship without having to give up your USA passport…only downside is that if your under the age of 50 your required to put 100k in a deposit here, and those funds can’t be withdrawn fully, after year 2 you can withdraw I believe 50%….and you must show the MY gov that you have means to live here….like an outside income of at least 3k USD a month …can be from a business or investments or you have significant funds on deposit outside of MY (500k USD+)
What I am surprised that most guys don’t do that love Thailand is get a residency card here in MY then travel to Thailand whenever they want…..its dirt cheap to travel almost anywhere in Thailand via the train or by local air carriers….costs me like barely 200$ usd to fly to Phuket or Bangkok …. (round trip) and the train is like $30…lol
If you were to live in MY I recommend Penang, its a bit slower here than KL but its also safer and bit more laid back, but it lacks any real "club" scene if thats your thing…
if you want to know more feel free to PM me….as I live here full time…(Penang)
polarbacon could you explain to me the appeal? Why did you move from the US to a country like malaysia?
I think Chiang Mai deserves an honourable mention amidst all this love for Bangkok.
I’ve only been to BKK as a tourist and stayed there for a few days. As such my impression is considerably warped. On the contrary I’ve been living in Chiang Mai for about 7 months now and would really struggle to speak ill of it.
I live here comfortably in nice accommodation eating good food for probably no more than £500 a month. It’s easy to get around and not at all crazy to get around by motorbike. The mountain is on your doorstep, as are many great little day trips.
Really can’t fault it.
@ _mcr_: I can’t speak for Polarbacon, but one of the major perks that attracted me to affiliate marketing/working from your computer, is location independence. You have the ability to work from literally anywhere that you can get good internet access which is a travelers wet dream. Also there are some other perks, geo-arbitrage (cheaper cost of living for a more lavish lifestyle), various tax loopholes, cheap employees/outsourcing ect…
another +1 from Bangkok from me (like there aren’t enough). I’ve been living here for the last 7 or so months, absolutely love it. I’ll find it very hard to leave.
If i was to move it’d be to one of the following:
Internet marketing lifestyle: Bangkok or Amsterdam
Taxation: Hong Kong (then would move to 1 of the 2 above)
More of an outdoor lifestyle: Australia, not exactly sure where
Spain: dirt cheap housing & food, as long as you’re not based in Ibiza. Central, easy to get anywhere in europe within 2 hours. Good weather.
I would like to add Spain to my list. I forgot about it 😛
As an American who has been bopping around Asia with family for the past nine months, I’ve got to second Polarbacon on Malaysia. Great food, super cheap and laid back. Might not be the right place for someone who needs a 24/7 party scene, but I love it.
Coming from Seattle, MY seems a lot safer. Chiang Mai, Thailand was a bit rural and expensive for my taste, but I love Singapore. Does anyone have comments on Bali? It’s on my list.
This place, sooner or later, will bore you to tears.
Cuz the US is a festering hole of bullshit atm, and I am tired of it, besides that taxes by living off shore you can exclude about 100k of income at the current tax rates its about 30-40k in savings depending on how much you make beyond that….you can live on 30-40k in SEA, comfortably….
Thing is people often get stuck in a mindset and fail to challenge themselves. For a long time I never saw a reason to leave the states as its all I ever knew. But after making a trip to Asia to meet a friend ( who is now my wife )I realized how much I didn’t know about the world around me. I felt kinda dumb, ignorant, classic fucking american who thinks the world revolves around the USA. So after that I challenged myself to find a way to move out from the states and really see what its like living and a different country and to see the rest of the world.
any country has its good and bad…but overall the one thing I wish is I would have moved away sooner….I now have perspective that you just can’t get any other way.
I find the experiences in life give us as humans the most pleasure, I know that many of you here are fixated on the brand of your car, the size of your house, the brand of watch you wear….to that I say phooey smooey….its the experiences that make us who we are….and I wish to fill the remaining years of my life seeing the rest of this wonderful planet we live on….
I "tested" Bali as a place to live for about 4 months just this last year….
It all depends on what you want. I’ll give you a for instance…
if you like to surf, you will be in fucking heaven….Bali is crazy good for surfing, seems common knowledge but surfers I spoke with say that there is nothing quite like it anywhere, cheap to live, great surf very consistent esp from may-oct. You will need to learn how to surf a reef break….
If you like kinda an alternative slower pace Ubud where we lived is quite nice. Your a bit away from the beaches but the scence there is very hipster/bohemian/artistic…
Lots of decent places to eat and its kinda devoid of the big condos and hotels you have around kuta/semiyak…
we rented a huge villa (5000+ sqft) just outside of Ubud ran about 1700/month….but you can find cheaper places for a song around Ubud, its all about what your looking for….
I can go into more detail if you want prob best would be via PM if you have more questions….
I would suggest places other than HK…its not like it once was
I live just 30 mins flight from Bali, it’s nice although it’s not as cheap as people imagine.
traffic jam in Bali is bad especially if you live in ubud, kuta and nearby
I’d live somewhere more urbanized and has decent public transport system
looks like everybody hates their city/country
i know a lot of javanese, malay, singaporean, balinese or thai, even upper class who want nothing else but emigrate to Australia, USA or other ‘western’ country
Polarbacon’s choice of penang is great. It has the best food in Malaysia, peaceful and generally very relaxing. My hometown is near Penang Polarbacon, I go back maybe 2 to 3 times a year. I’ll hit u up if you’re interested to meet in Penang.
How true! Lots of Malaysians would like to migrate to Singapore, and lots of Singaporeans would like to migrate to Australia etc.
Thanks Polarbacon for giving your thumbs up for Malaysia, especially Penang.
I am based in KL and not complaining! It would be a pleasure to meet you if you are interested. =)
I think Bangkok is the best all round city for affiliate marketers. You have the business benefits, lifestyle AND community.
Other than cities in the US… Toronto, Sydney, London, Amsterdam, all have buzzing communities, however shitty taxes and high costs come with that. You can deal with taxes by getting creative, but you can’t avoid the high living costs. For me, it’s worth it.
Why isn’t there an apartment swap system set up for the STM community?
STMers cover most big cities around the world. The majority of us travel a lot. Most of the time leaving an apartment empty. There is a level of trust from members on STM.
Haha ok that is all for now…
This is an amazing idea.
My place is not sexy at all, but I think the idea is brilliant.
sure aways keen to grab an adult beverage with a fellow STM’er…..if your up this way feel free to pm me I am right on Gurney Drive….
thats kinda an open invitation for anyone really…who is either swinging thru Penang or doing a visa run from thailand….
I agree, i looked into it a lot a few months back and it didn’t look great. From a tax perspective it’s one of the easiest/safest places to move to when it comes to paying nearly 0%. You don’t have to live there for more than 1/4 of the year though, just set everything up there, as long as you don’t live in Canada.
Czech republic works for me, fair prices, top girls and weather is nice. Only thing i miss is beach.
miami by far…. not even close fellas.
i walk 20 ft to the beach.
hottest girls in the states
winter is 60 degees for a week.
nightlife every night of the week till 5 am (sorry cali)
close to south/central america
no state income tax